Help please

Discussion in 'Quotes and Proposals' started by Jan, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Jan

    Jan New Member

    I live in Nebraska -- apparently a geothermal wasteland -- not a single name registered in this state with IGSHPA....
    I recently bought a place with a 60 x 75' all steel building and am strongly inclined to have geothermal radiant floor heat installed but can't seem to find anyone who knows more than I do about it, which isn't much.
    I've read all I can find -- just know the very basics.
     
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  3. Palace GeoThermal

    Palace GeoThermal Well-Known Member Industry Professional Forum Leader

    I looked on IGSHPA and found these:

    Kyle E. Nelson ​
    7805 Jemez st ​
    Albuquerque
    NE
    87109 ​
    505-697-9664 ​
    AI​
    Kenneth L. Sillman ​
    401 Market St. ​
    Beatrice
    NE
    68310 ​
    402-228-2324 ​
    AI​
    Gary L. DeBoer ​
    511 S. 6th St. ​
    Beatrice
    NE
    68310 ​
    402-223-5348 ​
    AI​
    David Tranmer ​
    Jensen Well Co., Inc.
    767 Iowa St. ​
    Blair
    NE
    68008 ​
    402-426-2585 ​
    D/C, AI​
    David L. Aten ​
    2054 Washington St. ​
    Blair
    NE
    68008 ​
    402-533-2034 ​
    AI​
    Doug Fuss ​
    PO Box 627 ​
    Broken Bow
    NE
    68822 ​
    308-872-6451 ​
    AI​
    Richard E. Trumbo ​
    PO Box 627 ​
    Broken Bow
    NE
    68822 ​
    308-872-6451 ​
    AI​
    Jay Hazlewood ​
    PO Box 563 ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-650-0678 ​
    AI​
    Timothy A. Huttmann ​
    20007 Covington Circle ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-616-3809 ​
    AI​
    Melvin J. Alexander ​
    205 Hackberry Dr. ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-690-3595 ​
    AI​
    Todd Gammel ​
    PO Box 563 ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-813-0383 ​
    AI​
    Tyler Volk ​
    PO Box 563 ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-332-5080 ​
    AI​
    Jason M. Hoffman ​
    PO Box 563 ​
    Gretna
    NE
    68028 ​
    402-416-1923 ​
    AI​
    Donavin J. Kathol ​
    106 E. 889th Rd. ​
    Hartington
    NE
    68739 ​
    402-254-6444 ​
    AI​
    Jason D. Larson ​
    PO Box 352 ​
    Kenesaw
    NE
    68956 ​
    308-440-7138 ​
    AI​
    Matthew R. Jackman ​
    14375 W. Denman Rd. ​
    Kenesaw
    NE
    68956 ​
    402-984-9800 ​
    AI​
    Paul A. Weiler ​
    PO Box 322 ​
    Kenesaw
    NE
    68956 ​
    402-752-8161 ​
    AI​
    Thomas Rogge ​
    7701 Cornhusker Hwy. ​
    Lincoln
    NE
    68507 ​
    402-467-2355 ​
    AI​
    Travis Sondgeroth ​
    7701 Cornhusker Hwy. ​
    Lincoln
    NE
    68507 ​
    402-467-2355 ​
    AI​
    John Wallace ​
    7701 Cornhusker Hwy. ​
    Lincoln
    NE
    68507 ​
    402-467-2355 ​
    AI​
    Todd W. Lineweber ​
    7701 Cornhusker Hwy. ​
    Lincoln
    NE
    68507 ​
    402-617-8518 ​
     
  4. Palace GeoThermal

    Palace GeoThermal Well-Known Member Industry Professional Forum Leader

    there were actually twice that many on IGSHPA, just too many to post
     
  5. Jan

    Jan New Member

    OK -- I don't know what happened but I got a whole list this time too -- I did the same exact thing as before -- I think.
    As Rosanne Rosannadana would say.... nevermind
     
  6. AMI Contracting

    AMI Contracting A nice Van Morrison song Industry Professional Forum Leader

    Hadn't heard that for awhile:D:D:D
     
  7. Jan

    Jan New Member

    well glad someone's old enough to get it anyway ;)
     
  8. Mark Custis

    Mark Custis Not soon. Industry Professional Forum Leader

    Doing what you want is not difficult

    I love geo-radiant. What do you want to do with the space? Does it need to be cooled too? I have never been to NE.

    Mark
     
  9. Jan

    Jan New Member

    What do you want to do with the space? Does it need to be cooled too? I have never been to NE.

    Mark

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    Nebraska's climate is extreme -- sub-zero cold and 100+ hot with humidity like a sauna -- which puts the "feels like" temperature over 100 when the actual temp is way lower -- then it does get over 100 actual too -- so that's a definite yes, needs to be cooled.
    I'm just going all out on this building so if there's any way to justify the up-front cost of geothermal, I'm strongly inclined to do it. I'm putting 1/3 of the space into a shop where I'll be spending most of the day. I wish I could talk to an expert -- Nebraska is kind of a frontier for geothermal. It's coming but I don't think there's anyone with a lot of experience putting it in yet. The other 2/3 of the space (zone 2) will be for equine use / hay storage. My thought was that if I put in all the pex tubing throughout then I could at least keep the animal area as warm as the ground temp without adding any heat to it or cost of heating. I don't know how expensive it would be to just keep the pump running -- and maybe that could be done with solar.
    I'd really love to have an expert opinion. I think we're just going to do the prep work - grading, etc. this fall and wait for spring to pour so I have some time to consider my options.
     
  10. Mark Custis

    Mark Custis Not soon. Industry Professional Forum Leader

    I have never tried to cool horses

    What temperatures do they like?

    Do you have plans as in drawings for this building?

    Radiant and geothermal are not married but they play well together.

    Solar thermal is very doable but it does not cool as well as geo.

    I may not be "the" expert, but this is what I do for a living. So you would rather talk than type?

    Mark
     
  11. Jan

    Jan New Member

    I don't know how much power a circulating pump alone would use -- I was thinking in terms of solar powering just the circulating pump without any heating or cooling in the animal zone -- just moderating the temperature with the ground temp -- which would naturally be cooler in summer and warmer in winter -- using solar power for cooling wasn't what I meant.
    This is where talking is better -- too easy to misread and misunderstand -- and mistype...
    the building is already there -- 60' x 75' all steel. Previous owners used it as a riding arena -- I'm putting in a cement floor and radiant heat then building a shop in 1/3 of the area.
     
  12. Mark Custis

    Mark Custis Not soon. Industry Professional Forum Leader

    Help is on de way

    Jan:

    Pumps use as much power as they need to do the work, since I do not know how much work is needed I do not know what the power draw would be, however I know the clever guys at WILO make a pump designed to run on solar-voltaic panels.

    There is a guy in NM that uses solar thermal for cooling all the time.

    I do not get horses, will they like the concrete floor? If not we can just put radiant in the dirt and skip the concrete. If you have the horses you most likely own a skid steer to move manure, which we could use to install the radiant.
     
  13. Jan

    Jan New Member

    Yes, they'll like the cement floor -- they better for what it's costing -- but they're not horses. What is WILO? I'll google it and see if I can answer my own question.
     

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